tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321730162166103910.post8562023910020451684..comments2024-03-16T23:44:59.786+00:00Comments on The Invisible workshop: Turned pinsBenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13168004187604887107noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321730162166103910.post-65838828300695776312008-11-04T19:13:00.000+00:002008-11-04T19:13:00.000+00:00Al -Ben's quite right about the reasons for Phoeni...Al -<BR/><BR/>Ben's quite right about the reasons for Phoenix III's spritsail sloop rig, and right too about the lugsails he's had made for Onawind Blue.<BR/><BR/>What's more, I think Ben's sails look smashing. To me they seem so natural, you'd think that boats of this kind had been built with that kind of rig for many years. I've pretty well come round to Ben's point of view on this issue.<BR/><Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321730162166103910.post-15726911966355840932008-11-04T09:40:00.000+00:002008-11-04T09:40:00.000+00:00AL, Several years ago I was quite tempted by the 4...AL, <BR/>Several years ago I was quite tempted by the 420 but eventually realised that it would be unsuitable for cruising on this coast. It was only when I found there were no suitable production boats on the market that I decided to build.<BR/><BR/>Gav drew the LT with sprit lugs sails but I went with standing lugsails reckoning them easier to reef. The simple rig has proven highly satisfactoryBenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168004187604887107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321730162166103910.post-19642412648306278122008-11-04T04:18:00.000+00:002008-11-04T04:18:00.000+00:00Thank you for your answers.Gavin, I didn't meant t...Thank you for your answers.<BR/><BR/>Gavin, I didn't meant to say which one is better, <BR/>is there anything "better" for everything ?<BR/><BR/>Obviously, for Ben's purpose (cruising),<BR/>which one is more suitable ? Your answers are clear.<BR/><BR/>Ross Lillistone's Phoenix III seems another good option, however some owners report difficulties reefing solo on the water. Spritsail sloop is a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321730162166103910.post-16897546414874540532008-10-31T14:26:00.000+00:002008-10-31T14:26:00.000+00:00That is to say I agree with Gav when he says 'The ...That is to say I agree with Gav when he says 'The issue is not which is the better boat, but which of the two very different boats most closely meets your purpose.'<BR/><BR/>Although the LT had never been built I felt her lines promised the simplicity I desired and I haven't been disappointed.<BR/><BR/>BBenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168004187604887107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321730162166103910.post-18542509453117303942008-10-31T08:10:00.000+00:002008-10-31T08:10:00.000+00:00Al, The Core Sound 15 looks like a good boat, I pa...Al,<BR/> <BR/>The Core Sound 15 looks like a good boat, I particularly like the cat ketch rig and the underwater shape promises good sailing. <BR/><BR/>My priorities were very clear when I built the Light Trow. Probably top of the list was hull weight; there was no point my building a boat that I couldn’t launch and retrieve solo on an open beach, often in waves with the possibility of capsize Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168004187604887107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321730162166103910.post-53351433885850047662008-10-31T00:51:00.000+00:002008-10-31T00:51:00.000+00:00Thinking about alternatives to the Light Trow, I'd...Thinking about alternatives to the Light Trow, I'd point to Ross Lillistone's Phoenix III or and some of John Welsford's boats. Haven't thought of too many others yet though, but maybe I'm just tired!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321730162166103910.post-66675300788157897952008-10-31T00:38:00.000+00:002008-10-31T00:38:00.000+00:00Come round here and say that Al!I'm sure Ben is pr...Come round here and say that Al!<BR/><BR/>I'm sure Ben is proud of his boat, but guess how the designer feels ;-) <BR/><BR/>Actually, the Core Sound 15 is a very different boat - beamier and capable of carrying a bigger payload and crew, and with a bigger rig. <BR/><BR/>The Light Trow, by comparison is a lean kind of boat with a rather small displacement for its length and a narrow beam of 4ft - Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321730162166103910.post-27596364062383625692008-10-30T18:02:00.000+00:002008-10-30T18:02:00.000+00:00Ben, I'm sure you are proud of OB, but if you ...Ben, I'm sure you are proud of OB, but if you had to build her again, would you consider building Core Sound 15 from B&B ? <BR/>http://www.bandbyachtdesigns.com/cs15.htm<BR/><BR/>Thank you.<BR/><BR/>Al.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321730162166103910.post-48794826972070161252008-10-28T21:01:00.000+00:002008-10-28T21:01:00.000+00:00Not at all Chris, a pleasure.Not at all Chris, a pleasure.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168004187604887107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321730162166103910.post-34751162281894723122008-10-28T19:22:00.000+00:002008-10-28T19:22:00.000+00:00Even the most fashion-conscious Catalan doesn't li...Even the most fashion-conscious Catalan doesn't like paying chandlery prices, clearly. I've borrowed your pic for rowingforpleasure.blogspot.com - I hope you don't mind.<BR/>Best of luck with your mast. I left mine square but it is a sprit rig so I could get away with it.<BR/>All best,<BR/>ChrisChris Partridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883064324795042491noreply@blogger.com